Pest · Váci district · population 33,871

Vác

Everything public data tells about this settlement: whether it has a doctor, how far care is, whether a bus gets there, and where it stands in the national ranking.

Where is it?

Érd Dunakeszi Szigetszentmiklós Cegléd Gödöllő Budaörs Gyál Nagykőrös Göd Vecsés Veresegyház Fót Gyömrő Monor Vác
Pest county, Váci district (highlighted). Thin lines are district (járás) borders, small dots district seats. A dashed line is not a route but a connection: its label gives the driving time by road. Here in the settlement: GP, Dentist, Central on-call, Hospital, Pharmacy.

Who lives here?

aged 0–14: 5,001 (14.5%) aged 15–64: 22,363 (64.9%) over 65: 7,085 (20.6%) 14.5% 5,001 people 64.9% 22,363 people 20.6% 7,085 people hover
Vác: age groups
over 65 · men: 2,688 (37.9% of the group) over 65 · women: 4,397 (62.1% of the group) over 65 2,688 4,397 aged 15–64 · men: 11,322 (50.6% of the group) aged 15–64 · women: 11,041 (49.4% of the group) aged 15–64 11,322 11,041 aged 0–14 · men: 2,593 (51.8% of the group) aged 0–14 · women: 2,408 (48.2% of the group) aged 0–14 2,593 2,408
Pyramid: men and women

Bar lengths are measured against the settlement's largest group.

Of a hundred residents
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Of a hundred residents, this many fall into each age group. Hover or click: the centre of the pie shows the exact number.

Against the national shares
aged 0–14 14.5% +0.0%
aged 15–64 64.9% +0.0%
over 65 20.6% −0.0%

The dark line is the national share — where the bar reaches past it, the settlement has more.

32 older people (over 65) / 100 of working age 32 nationally
22 children (aged 0–14) / 100 of working age
142 older people — ageing index / 100 children more older people than children
51.8% of residents are women 16,603 men · 17,846 women

Source: KSH, 2022 census (CC BY 4.0). The shares above refer to the census population of 34,449; the 33,871 at the top of the page comes from KSH's latest gazetteer, so the two differ.

How do people live here?

Income, work, births and deaths, moving away — the settlement beside its járás, its county and the median Hungarian settlement. These are the reasons a district is hard to fill, and the reasons people here die sooner.

Income per resident

3.52 m Fta year, 2024

Vác 3.52 m Ft
Váci járás 3.40 m Ft
Pest 3.48 m Ft
median settlement 2.22 m Ft

530 in every 1,000 residents pay personal income tax.

Share of jobseekers

2.3%494 registered jobseekers of 21,838 of working age, September 2026

Vác 2.3%
Pest 2.4%
country 3.6%

26% of them have been looking for over a year.

3%6% 2020202120222023202420252026

Births and deaths

−4.5‰per 1,000 residents, 2022–2025 average

Vác −4.5‰
Váci járás −3.7‰
Pest −2.5‰
median settlement −4.8‰

Births minus deaths. A negative number means more people die than are born.

Moving in and out

+0.7‰per 1,000 residents, 2022–2025 average

Vác +0.7‰
Váci járás +8.5‰
Pest +5.9‰
median settlement −0.4‰

People moving in minus people moving out, within the country. A negative number means more leave than arrive.

Patient visits per GP

15,299a year, 2025

Vác 15,299

Surgery visits, home visits and telemedicine together. Where districts nearby are empty, the remaining doctors carry more.

According to the census (2022)

● this settlement | járás | county | country

Adults over 20 with a degree country: 23.7%county: 26.2%járás: 25.1% 29.4% 29.4%
Employed, of those over 15 country: 57.5%county: 61.2%járás: 59.9% 60.0% 60.0%
No digital activity at all (over 6) country: 17.4%county: 14.5%járás: 15.8% 15.7% 15.7%
Half-comfort, no-comfort or emergency dwelling country: 3.2%county: 2.3%járás: 1.6% 1.0% 1.0%
Households where everyone is over 65 country: 22.6%county: 18.9%járás: 20.5% 22.7% 22.7%

Settlement data of the 2022 KSH census. Digital skills show how far a phone consultation or an e-prescription can stand in for a surgery; a household of only the old has no one to drive a patient.

District filled with a state grant

  • 2025 · GP settlement grant still filled

NEAK publishes the winners of the settlement and practice-right grants every year. We do not show the winner's name; whether the district has a doctor today is followed in NEAK's monthly data.

What to expect here in a year?

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GP care

3 of the 19 serving districts are vacant today; it is near certain that one of them will still be vacant in a year.

16%

Dental care

16% chance that in 12 months at least one of the 9 districts serving this settlement is vacant.

A forecast, not a prophecy: from the past risk of filled districts and the past refill pace of vacant ones. It is about the settlement, never about a particular doctor.

Váci járás a year from now

8.6GP districts expected vacant in 12 months; 9 of 39 today

now9
in 12 months 8.6

Expected: 1.0 districts falling vacant and 1.4 filled; the 90% band is 6.3–11.0. A forecast, not a promise: from the past risk of filled districts and the past refill pace of vacant ones.

Avoidable mortality in Váci járás: 384 per 100,000 (2024); the rural median is 450.

This is a járás figure: NNGYK publishes no settlement-level avoidable mortality, because so few deaths cannot give a reliable rate. The járás's health data →

In a small settlement a few births or moves shift the rate a lot, so the vital statistics are four-year averages; for the smallest villages they still need reading with care.

Sources: KSH TIMEA (income from NAV data), KSH 2022 census, NFSZ settlement data, NNGYK mortality database, NEAK grant winners and monthly data; the forecast is our own calculation.

At street level

Exactly where they are: the staffed surgeries with the doctor's name, the pharmacies, and whatever else is in the settlement. The map loads only on a click, so the page stays readable at once.

Dental surgeryGP surgeryPharmacyCentral on-call serviceAmbulance stationOutpatient clinicHospitalMedical aids

The points are geocoded addresses (Nominatim/OpenStreetMap), not a survey on the ground: where an address is imprecise the marker falls on the settlement centre, and its bubble says so. Map: © MapTiler, data: © OpenStreetMap contributors.

Is there a doctor?

GP care

Has a staffed district. Has a vacant district.

Served by 16 staffed and 3 vacant or dissolved districts.

A district has its seat here.

Dental care

Has a staffed district.

Served by 9 staffed and 0 vacant or dissolved districts.

GPs in the settlement 16 Dr. Baksa György · Dr. Bánhidi Péter · Dr. Béres Gábor · +13
Group by:

several doctors work at 3 addresses — marked ⧉; grouping shows them.

130091179 Dr. Baksa György adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130091177 Dr. Bánhidi Péter adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130091182 Dr. Béres Gábor adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főút 13. 7 years or longer yes
130091174 Dr. Falta Domonkos adult 2600 Vác, Pap Béla u. 10. < 1 year yes
130091244 Dr. Füredi Gyula adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130091242 Dr. Halmos Judit adult 2600 Vác, Földváry Károly tér 15. < 1 year yes
130091178 Dr. Hirling András adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130091183 Dr. Kiss Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130091176 Dr. Manninger Péter adult 2600 Vác, Csányi László krt. 47. 7 years or longer yes
130091175 Dr. Szűcs Barnabás Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 7 years or longer yes
130091180 Dr. Varga Eszter adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 2 years yes
130091181 Dr. Ördögh Emese adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130095132 Dr. Huszágh Hedvig children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári főút 7. 7 years or longer yes
130095129 Dr. Marton Anita children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130095131 Dr. Ruzsa Mária children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 7 years or longer yes
130095130 Lehotkáné Dr. Kővári Zita children's 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26.⧉ 2 years yes

2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 5 doctors

130091179 Dr. Baksa György adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes
130091183 Dr. Kiss Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes
130095129 Dr. Marton Anita children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes
130095131 Dr. Ruzsa Mária children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes
130091180 Dr. Varga Eszter adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 2 years yes

2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 3 doctors

130091177 Dr. Bánhidi Péter adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 7 years or longer yes
130091178 Dr. Hirling András adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 7 years or longer yes
130095130 Lehotkáné Dr. Kővári Zita children's 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 2 years yes

2600 Vác, Vám u. 5. 2 doctors

130091244 Dr. Füredi Gyula adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5. 7 years or longer yes
130091181 Dr. Ördögh Emese adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5. 7 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Csányi László krt. 47. 1 doctors

130091176 Dr. Manninger Péter adult 2600 Vác, Csányi László krt. 47. 7 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Deákvári Főút 13. 1 doctors

130091182 Dr. Béres Gábor adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főút 13. 7 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Deákvári főút 7. 1 doctors

130095132 Dr. Huszágh Hedvig children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári főút 7. 7 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Földváry Károly tér 15. 1 doctors

130091242 Dr. Halmos Judit adult 2600 Vác, Földváry Károly tér 15. < 1 year yes

2600 Vác, Pap Béla u. 10. 1 doctors

130091174 Dr. Falta Domonkos adult 2600 Vác, Pap Béla u. 10. < 1 year yes

2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 1 doctors

130091175 Dr. Szűcs Barnabás Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Baksa György 1 districts

130091179 Dr. Baksa György adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Bánhidi Péter 1 districts

130091177 Dr. Bánhidi Péter adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Béres Gábor 1 districts

130091182 Dr. Béres Gábor adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főút 13. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Falta Domonkos 1 districts

130091174 Dr. Falta Domonkos adult 2600 Vác, Pap Béla u. 10. < 1 year yes

Dr. Füredi Gyula 1 districts

130091244 Dr. Füredi Gyula adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Halmos Judit 1 districts

130091242 Dr. Halmos Judit adult 2600 Vác, Földváry Károly tér 15. < 1 year yes

Dr. Hirling András 1 districts

130091178 Dr. Hirling András adult 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Huszágh Hedvig 1 districts

130095132 Dr. Huszágh Hedvig children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári főút 7. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Kiss Lajos 1 districts

130091183 Dr. Kiss Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Manninger Péter 1 districts

130091176 Dr. Manninger Péter adult 2600 Vác, Csányi László krt. 47. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Marton Anita 1 districts

130095129 Dr. Marton Anita children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Ördögh Emese 1 districts

130091181 Dr. Ördögh Emese adult 2600 Vác, Vám u. 5. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Ruzsa Mária 1 districts

130095131 Dr. Ruzsa Mária children's 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Szűcs Barnabás Lajos 1 districts

130091175 Dr. Szűcs Barnabás Lajos adult 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 7 years or longer yes

Dr. Varga Eszter 1 districts

130091180 Dr. Varga Eszter adult 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 2 years yes

Lehotkáné Dr. Kővári Zita 1 districts

130095130 Lehotkáné Dr. Kővári Zita children's 2600 Vác, Flórián u. 26. 2 years yes
Dentists in the settlement 9 Dr. Bereczkei Ágnes · Dr. Bea Gyula Imre · Dr. Elekes Csaba · +6
Group by:

several doctors work at 4 addresses — marked ⧉; grouping shows them.

130098335 Dr. Bereczkei Ágnes adult 2600 Vác, Köztársaság út 62-64. 9 years or longer yes
130096221 Dr. Bea Gyula Imre mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 9 years or longer yes
130096217 Dr. Elekes Csaba mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3.⧉ < 1 year matched
130096222 Dr. Molnár Csilla mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15.⧉ 5 years yes
130096275 Dr. Pánczél Mariann mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9.⧉ 2 years yes
130096220 Dr. Solymosi Eszter mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29.⧉ 5 years yes
130096218 Dr. Su Zining mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3.⧉ < 1 year matched
130096219 Dr. Takács Laura mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15.⧉ < 1 year yes
130096224 Dr. Ullmann Klára mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9.⧉ 9 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 2 doctors

130096221 Dr. Bea Gyula Imre mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 9 years or longer yes
130096220 Dr. Solymosi Eszter mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 5 years yes

2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15. 2 doctors

130096222 Dr. Molnár Csilla mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15. 5 years yes
130096219 Dr. Takács Laura mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15. < 1 year yes

2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3. 2 doctors

130096217 Dr. Elekes Csaba mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3. < 1 year matched
130096218 Dr. Su Zining mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3. < 1 year matched

2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 2 doctors

130096275 Dr. Pánczél Mariann mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 2 years yes
130096224 Dr. Ullmann Klára mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 9 years or longer yes

2600 Vác, Köztársaság út 62-64. 1 doctors

130098335 Dr. Bereczkei Ágnes adult 2600 Vác, Köztársaság út 62-64. 9 years or longer yes

Dr. Bea Gyula Imre 1 districts

130096221 Dr. Bea Gyula Imre mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 9 years or longer yes

Dr. Bereczkei Ágnes 1 districts

130098335 Dr. Bereczkei Ágnes adult 2600 Vác, Köztársaság út 62-64. 9 years or longer yes

Dr. Elekes Csaba 1 districts

130096217 Dr. Elekes Csaba mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3. < 1 year matched

Dr. Molnár Csilla 1 districts

130096222 Dr. Molnár Csilla mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15. 5 years yes

Dr. Pánczél Mariann 1 districts

130096275 Dr. Pánczél Mariann mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 2 years yes

Dr. Solymosi Eszter 1 districts

130096220 Dr. Solymosi Eszter mixed 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 29. 5 years yes

Dr. Su Zining 1 districts

130096218 Dr. Su Zining mixed 2600 Vác, Kodály Zoltán u. 3. < 1 year matched

Dr. Takács Laura 1 districts

130096219 Dr. Takács Laura mixed 2600 Vác, Földváry tér 15. < 1 year yes

Dr. Ullmann Klára 1 districts

130096224 Dr. Ullmann Klára mixed 2600 Vác, Zrínyi u. 9. 9 years or longer yes

The doctor's name comes from NEAK's register of contracted providers and is shown only for staffed districts. “Since” comes from our own archive (monthly NEAK snapshots kept since 2017-10), not from a start date NEAK publishes; no public source gives surgery hours.

What is vacant

Vacant is not the same as unserved: substitution does not show in public data.

Vacant and dissolved districts that serve this settlement 3
NEAK codeBranchDistrictStatusSinceSeat
130095133 GP children's persistently vacant October 2024 (2 years) here
130095128 GP children's persistently vacant November 2024 (1 years) here
130091243 GP adult persistently vacant November 2025 (< 1 year) here

“Since” is the first month on NEAK's vacancy list. A vacant district is never named with a doctor, and substitution does not show in public data.

Health visitors

Health visitor service 19 10 territorial · 9 school
AddressProviderServices
2600 Vác, Brusznyai Árpád utca 4. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Brusznyai Árpád utca 6. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Báthori utca 17-19. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Deákvári főtér 5. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Géza Király tér 8. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, KONSTANTIN TÉR tér 6 Váci Piarista Gimnázium 1
2600 Vác, Nagymező utca 14. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Naszály út 8. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Radnóti Miklós út 7. Váci Humán Szolgáltató Központ 1
2600 Vác, Deákvári főút 34/a Észak-Pesti Centrumkórház - Honvédkórház 5
2600 Vác, Flórián utca 26. Észak-Pesti Centrumkórház - Honvédkórház 2
2600 Vác, Vám utca 5. Észak-Pesti Centrumkórház - Honvédkórház 1
2600 Vác, Zrínyi Miklós utca 9. Észak-Pesti Centrumkórház - Honvédkórház 2

No public register names the health visitor — the service and its provider, yes; the person, no. (Doctors' names, too, are shown only for staffed districts, from NEAK's own publication.)

How far?

By car in free-flowing traffic on the OpenStreetMap road network — with the straight-line distance beside it, because the two are not the same.

GP surgery 1.3 min here
Dental surgery 0 min here
Central on-call service 2.5 min here
Ambulance station 2.6 min here
Hospital 2.8 min here
Outpatient clinic 2.8 min here
Medical aids 0 min here
Pharmacy 0 min here
Emergency department 2.8 min here
CareDriveStraight lineWhere
GP surgery1.3 min 0.3 km here
Dental surgery0 min 0 km here
Central on-call service2.5 min 1.5 km here
Ambulance station2.6 min 1.6 km here
Hospital2.8 min 0.1 km here
Outpatient clinic2.8 min 1.7 km here
Medical aids0 min 0 km here
Pharmacy0 min 0 km here
Emergency department2.8 min 1.7 km here

9 medical-aid outlets operate in the settlement.

Pharmacy

PharmacyAddress
Alsóvárosi Gyógyszertár 2600 Vác, Zöldfa Utca 25.
Benu Gyt Vác Szent Rókus 2600 Vác, Zrínyi U. 9.
Deákvári Patika 2600 Vác, Deákvári Főtér 30.
Fekete Kígyó Gyógyszertár 2600 Vác, Széchenyi U. 37.
Gyöngyvirág Gytár 2600 Vác, Széchenyi U. 3-7.
Kisváci Szent Gellért Gyt 2600 Vác, Papp Béla U. 10.
Központi Gyógyszertár 2600 Vác, Dr Csányi László Krt 46.
Patikaplus Gyógyszertár 2600 Vác, Deres U. 2
Platán Patika Gytr 2600 Vác, Argenti Döme Tér 1-3.
Váci Levendula Gytár. 2600 Vác, Sas Utca 1/a.
Vácz Remete Gyógyszertár 2600 Vác, Magyar Utca 3.

Pharmacy

The pharmacies on the map, at street level. The points are geocoded addresses (Nominatim/OpenStreetMap), not a survey on the ground: where an address is imprecise the marker falls on the settlement centre, and its bubble says so. Map: © MapTiler, data: © OpenStreetMap contributors.

Can you get there by bus?

533 departures on the reference day
72 settlements reachable without a change
✓ GP Vác
✓ on-call Vác
✓ hospital Vác

On an average Wednesday there are 533 scheduled departures from the settlement, and 72 other settlements can be reached directly.

Trains are not in the data: MÁV's timetable is available only after registration. “No direct bus” does not mean there is no way to get there.

Composite care-risk index ?A weighted mean of eight public measures, each turned into a national percentile: vacancy, driving time to the GP, the dentist, the on-call service, outpatient and inpatient care, bus access, age structure, the risk forecast and the beneficiary-settlement status. 100 is the worst-placed settlement, not one without care.

32

0 — the best-placed settlement100 — the worst

Vác ranks 2,783 of 3,177 settlements — better placed than 12.4% of the country.

32

low risk

Ranked 2,783 highest of the country's 3,177 settlements on the composite care-risk index.

Where does this settlement stand?

The index is a weighted mean of eight public measures, from national percentiles. A comparison, not a verdict: a high value means several measures point the same way — not that there is no care. The method in detail.

What changed in a year?

Compared with the 2025-12 snapshot from our own archive.

What happened to which district 5
NEAK codeBranchDistrictWhat happenedWho / whereFrom
130091242 GP adult district was filled Dr. Halmos Judit August 2026 (< 1 year)
130096217 dental mixed district got a new doctor Dr. Elekes Csaba June 2026 (< 1 year)
130096218 dental mixed district got a new doctor Dr. Su Zining June 2026 (< 1 year)
130096219 dental mixed district got a new doctor Dr. Takács Laura June 2026 (< 1 year)
130091174 GP adult district got a new doctor Dr. Falta Domonkos April 2026 (< 1 year)

Only changes today's snapshot confirms are listed: a district “fell vacant” if its vacancy began within the year, and “was filled” if a doctor works in it today. The archive's gaps do not show up as changes.

We compare only what every month has data for: vacant and dissolved districts and changes of doctor. Driving times, bus access and the pharmacy network are not available back in time, so no change is claimed for them. At county level, turnover shows how often doctors change.